THE LIFE AND DEATH OF MJ12, WHAT WERE THEY UP TO?
Lust for Alien Technology
When contact with aliens was made, about the time of Roswell, what was the
first thing on the minds of the US Military?
How to get there hands on that alien technology, for sure.
It has been speculated that much of the rapid increase in technology in
the last 50 years has been due to adoption of alien technology.
Not so, per the Zetas, as the Secret Government got NOTHING from their
encounters with aliens.
- ZetaTalk: Reverse Engineered, written Jul 15, 1997
- The rapid pace whereby technology grows by
leaps and bounds, exponentially as the years pass, has resulted in
speculation that this is due to alien technology secured from
crashed ships and reverse engineered by the military and their
civilian cohorts in the military industrial complex. This is
completely false, and in fact is simply a rumor started by those
individuals within the military industrial complex who wish to be
elevated in the eyes of the populace and fear losing their jobs and
prestige during budget cutbacks. Stealth technology was developed to
mock what the military was observing in alien ship movements and the
ability to disappear in a wink. The new stealth technology was quite
within the realm of humans to develop, as it is simply using a shape
to evade radar, and not all that effectively we might add.
Night vision goggles are simply screening out all but infrared and
then boosting this light spectrum. In this, human scientists are
also dealing with concepts long understood by humans, such as light
spectrums and the chemistry and electrical stimulation of these
light spectrums. Fiber optics is a technology which evolved due to
experiments in communications over mediums other than the expensive
and increasingly diminishing supply of copper. Glass has been used
by mankind for eons, an accidental discovery resulting from sand
lying under extremely hot bon fires on the beach. All manner of
substances were experimented with in laboratories, in an attempt to
find a cheap alternative to copper, all of which had nothing to do
with the alien presence or technology. Do we appear to need wires to
support our communication or ability to maneuver?
So if no technology was attained by the US military in their encounters
with aliens, what the heck was going on at Area 51?
- ZetaTalk: Area 51,
written on Aug 15, 1995
- Out in the Nevada Desert lies the most
watched air base in the United States. You know the one, it's the
one that doesn't exist, the one with no name - Area 51. Are flying
saucers being dismantled, assembled, inspected and flown by humans
at Area 51? Not any more, though until quite recently this was one
of the activities going on at this ultra secret, hush-hush base.
Area 51 is all the more in the news because of its desire to be
secret. At this point, should they throw open the doors and let the
public wander through, everyone would be disappointed. A tomb.
Empty, or virtually so, in preparation for just such public
exposure. Where did the space ships go, and how did the military
come into possession of them? The ships were moved by the alien
groups who provided them to the military, and the whole operation
has setup elsewhere, not on a military base. Are these our ships?
No, and this is as much as we can say about the matter, which for
the discerning reader aware of the rules, says quite precisely whose
ships these are.
What the Zetas were referring to were the Service-to-Self aliens who
provided the ships to the US military, more about that later.
The Service-to-Self are noted for their lies, as anyone familiar with the
current Bush administration should be familiar with.
They lie, and the ships given to the Military were certainly not any kind
of gift, as it was impossible for the US Military to learn how to fly them
Thus, there were many crashed ships!
- ZetaTalk: Crashed Ships,
written on Nov 15, 1995
- The public, hot on the trail of the
physical evidence they were sure the government possessed, has long
sought crashed ships. Some of them are rumored to be massive,
requiring roads blocked in the dead of night and coordination
between military and civilian forces to cart away in the dead of
night. Are there stores of such ships, and how often do such wrecks
occur? In fact, the military has no ships wrecked by aliens in their
possession, outside of the Roswell crash, [which was deliberate],
and all stories to the contrary are false. Stories of crashed alien
space ships feed the sense of power and control that humans in
leadership positions demand. In some cases these stories are
invented by government servants to get those in power off their
backs. Crashed ships diminish the alien presence, putting the skill
and technology of aliens on a par with that of humans, who regularly
crash planes and cars. How would it be that aliens could cross the
Universe yet not be able to putt about on your planet? Crashed alien
ships have not and will not be presented to the public because they
simply do not exist.
If there weren't crashed ships, then what of the stories, such as the
Crash at Kecksburg?
This was just an attempt by the US Military to learn how to fly one of the
ships on loan from the Service-to-Self aliens, who knew the US Military
would not figure out how to fly them.
- ZetaTalk: Crash at Kecksburg, written on Jun 15, 1996
- As a result of their early agreement with
aliens in the Service-to- Self, the military got possession of
several ships. This is certainly no secret, as Bob Lazar confirmed
the rumors. The military has never figured out how to operate the
ships they were given, and many deaths have resulted from their
attempts. Unlike human vehicles, which have a propulsion system and
manual controls, alien ships house a strange device that cannot be
examined and mental controls. The device that supports density
switching and rapid transport from one part of the Universe to
another cannot be opened and examined, as it explodes and
disintegrates when this is attempted. Of course, the scientists
ordered to proceed with such an experiment died instantly. In time,
the decision was made to simply use the ships, and to stop trying to
understand how they worked. The fact that the alien ships required
mental control only momentarily stopped the generals who wanted
desperately to control such a device. They drilled the smug
Service-to-Self aliens assigned as an escort without end, and
returned for more lessons after every abortive attempt.
The stories told of furtive observations at Area 51, where wobbly
space ships were seen lifting a few feet off the ground and then
flopping back, are true. Eventually enough control was attained that
the ambitious generals would order a field run with this ship or
that. The idea was to do more with the ship than simply lift and
wobble about. They wanted rapid travel across the skies. They wanted
to impress the heck out of anyone they were interested in
intimidating. At least they could do that, they reasoned. So the
human pilots, selected for their confidence and demonstrated skill,
would aim a little higher, a little farther, and WHAM! The crash
remains, which might be found anywhere, would be quickly collected
by special military teams scrambled with the greatest haste.
Bob Lazar reports that he worked on one of these space craft, hired to
figure out how they worked.
Is his story true? Yes! Per the Zetas!
- ZetaTalk: Lazar's Sport Craft, written on Aug 15, 1996
- Many humans interested in Bob Lazar's true
reports have seen his sketch of an alien ship, the inner workings
diagrammed and the method of operation laid out to the best of his
ability. Is this a real space ship, and are his speculations on its
operations correct? Yes and no, as where he saw a real ship, his
understanding of how levitation and rapid travel occur was not close
to the facts. All scientists in the employ of MJ12 are to this day
still scratching their heads, as the details were never explained to
them and being unable to dissect the mechanism without an explosion
occurring, they can only speculate.
Good vs Evil
So why was there a crashed ship at Roswell, the ONLY one crashed, and that
- ZetaTalk: Roswell,
written by Jul 15, 1995
- Roswell is all the rage here in the United
States. It is the flag-bearer in the parade of those who march to
learn the truth. The facts are well known, and the facts that are
known relate almost completely to the truth. This is a true story.
What is not well known is that Roswell was not an accident. At that
time, within the United States, many alien groups wanted a dialog
with the United States government. We chose the United States
because of its leadership in the community of nations. The United
States was and is sticking its nose into every activity throughout
the globe. We knew we could rely on the United States to be the
message bearer for any message the alien groups wished to get out.
The United States, as other governments, was not approachable.
Individuals who were contacted by the alien groups were treated as
though they were infected. They were not listened to. The block in
these matters was the human desire to be in control. Therefore, in
order to allow the humans in the United States government to be open
to our messages, we allowed them to be in control. Several entities
within the alien groups trying to contact the United States
government volunteered to be of service. They expected to die. The
plan was to allow ships to crash, ostensibly at the hands of humans.
This maximized the feeling of control the humans would experience,
particularly as the front end of any contact was, unfortunately,
through the military. Once they felt they could harm us, they were
willing to parley. Were people silenced via death during the Roswell
incident? Yes, and more than the public suspects.
The movie ET, the Extraterrestrial, was supposedly based on a true story
that one of the aliens in the Roswell crash survived, and communicated
with the US Military.
True? Yes, per the Zetas.
- ZetaTalk: EBE,
written by Jul 15, 1995
- Rumors surrounding the Roswell incident
include stories about [an alien], who survived the crash and lived
to chat, in a manner of speaking, with the government. These rumors
also state that the movie ET was based on this situation, as a small
boy, a son of one of the government officials involved, struck up a
telepathic relationship with the EBE. Any of this true? Some. EBE
was returned to his group, alive, after contact was established over
the next few years. Rumors that EBE died were spread so any press to
see and talk to him would be eliminated. EBE, as he was called, was
one of seven aliens on board the two craft that crashed at Roswell.
One craft was utterly demolished, as it was set to explode close to
the ground and did so as planned. The second craft held four aliens,
and crashed as planned without becoming utterly demolished. It was
expected that the impact would kill all four, who expected to die,
but one lived on with injuries. This was a shock to this alien, who
was unprepared for the intense interest in his digestive, breathing,
and medical needs. He found himself both held at arms length and
closely examined by the very nervous humans who recovered him.
An officer, called suddenly to the site where EBE was being housed,
had his young son in tow, and left him in the car while he conferred
inside. When he returned he found that his young son had much to
tell him, having been in telepathic communication with EBE. Without
having the two ever meet, and without confirming to the young boy
that his conversational pal was real, the government subsequently
had the two in close proximity and questioned the boy endlessly. To
this day he cannot prove that this occurred, other than that
questions were put to him. The impact of Roswell on human culture,
and on the government in particular, was that they knew for sure
that aliens, intelligent beings from other worlds, existed. The
legacy of EBE himself was essentially the quaint story of ET, where
aliens are viewed as shy and non-threatening, more vulnerable than
humans, and with charming eccentricities. That they bond well with
young children is considered by most to be a de facto proof of their
acceptability, in line with the adage that a person can be trusted
if the dog and the kids take a shine to him. EBE was followed,
however, by contacts with the government by a very different sort of
alien, those in the Service-to-Self, and this set the stage for the
next phase of the government's relationship with aliens.
Who were these Service-to-Self aliens?
The Omnipotent Krill, for one!
- ZetaTalk: Omnipotent Krlll, written Jul 15, 1995
- One of the first aliens in the
Service-to-Self orientation to contact the United States government
was a member of the alien race from Orion, who called himself the
Omnipotent Krlll. He had studied human societies, or rather had his
lackeys do this study, and concluded that a guttural name that
sounded like a growl would most induce fear. Thus the concocted
name. One should take note that it also sounds similar to the word
kill, also not by accident. This alien greatly impressed the
military officers who met him, in that he understood their need for
order and hierarchy, their concept of command by the most powerful
and well connected, and their willingness in the main to sell out
sections of the populace for any gain in power and might they might
As he was firmly in the Service-to-Self, they were in effect
speaking his language. He was at home. Krlll set to work
disinforming the military as best suited his ultimate aim. As he
wished to conquer them, he told them they were in charge. They
bought it. As he wished their cooperation, he told them they would
receive technology in exchange. They bought it. After all these
years, not much has come from this vaunted meeting with the
Omnipotent Krlll. His disinformation has been unraveled, bit by bit,
so that any information he provided has essentially been discarded.
However, there are still information pools formed essentially from
this source that have not dried up. They refuse to be silenced, and
repeat the same silly stories time and again. These sources have a
life of their own, having sensed that the information comes directly
from the government.
Attempting to counter the cozy relationship that Krill had established
with the US Military, the Service-to-Others aliens crashed at Roswell, the
logic being that control freaks would talk to those they thought they need
But when this gambit failed, they used other techniques.
- ZetaTalk: Power Outages,
written on Sep 15, 1995
- Following the Roswell incident the various
alien groups in the Service-to-Others orientation were displeased
with dialog that had been opened with the US Government. They found
themselves not only held at arms length but also negated - treated
as entities one need not worry about. Where Roswell had been staged,
several aliens in the Service-to-Others sacrificing themselves in
the crash so that the Military could feel they had the upper hand
and thus be amenable to an approach, the aliens now found themselves
facing a cocky group who treated them dismissively. One extreme to
another. At this point in time MJ12 had also been approached by the
Service-to-Self aliens, whom they treated with respect as this group
had not presented themselves as crashed ships or dead and injured
bodies. In the eyes of MJ12, who looked on the surface, the
Service-to-Self aliens had their act together. We expressed, through
the human translators assigned to us, that our capabilities were in
fact superior to the Service-to-Self aliens they were giving
preferential attention to, but were brushed aside.
As the Awakening is overseen by the Council of Worlds, this matter
was bantered about, and eventually the Council granted a spectacle
that would not be lost on MJ12, the intended audience. Prior to
Power Outages there were several attempts to impress MJ12 with less
drastic measures. Power Outages, after all, affect hospitals, little
old ladies tottering to the rest room, and moving traffic. We wished
to avoid this. Natural occurrences were affected first, having been
announced well ahead of time. Unseasonable temperature variations,
so that mid-winter would become positively balmy or mid-summer
chilly, but this impressed no one and we were only credited with
being good weather predictors. Light rays were deflected over broad
areas, so that mid-day became night for a brief but very noticeable
time, but as no disruption of activity took place, MJ12 was
unimpressed. So it's dark outside, then turn on the lights!
Thus, we determined, and effectively argued the case before the
Council, to prevent the lights from being turned on. Power Outages
were not unknown, and could be caused by any number of overload or
mechanical failure situations. People would buy it, on the local
level. At a national level, in smoke filled rooms and the corridors
of power, the truth would be passed around and hurriedly suppressed.
How do you suppose that MJ12 came to have so many corporate leaders
in its broad membership? They were initiated during the panics.
Suppress the press. Issue statements that had no relationship to the
facts. Use the bully boardroom, and keep each other closely
informed. When spreading a broad untruth, close communication and
coordination is required. MJ12 was no longer a clique of the
Military, it became for a time a clique of the establishment.
Subsequent to the Power Outages, which did not sweep without warning
over broad areas, we found MJ12 looking at us with new eyes. They
now believed our explanation of the Roswell crashes. Their eyes had
been opened. At this point the Power Outages were no longer
A major factor in the success of this
Awakening maneuver was the utter inability of the Government to stop
the outages. Learning of our schedule, which was announced days
ahead of the occurrence, they would arrange every kind of backup.
All contingencies failed. Power flow was stilled for the length of
time announced, and not so much as a flashlight battery worked. The
mechanism used by us involved essentially irradiating the area with
a countering force, affecting electron flow above a certain level.
Thus, human thought or the winking of fireflies would not be
affected, but human technology was at a stand still.
Thus, the early days of MJ12 became a battleground of good vs evil, with
dual alien groups competing for the attention of the US Military.
At first, the Service-to-Self had the stage, but as their lies gradually
were discovered, and the trustworthiness of the Service-to-Others was
established, this changed.
- ZetaTalk: Good or Evil,
written on Feb 15, 2002
- During the period between Roswell and the
present, the alien presence has been variously presented to mankind
as evil to good. During the early years, the predominant
presentation was evil, intending to enslave mankind and dominate the
globe, perhaps eating man as a snack. This view has migrated to the
comic, as in the movie Men in Black, where a giant bug is fought off
by good aliens and mankind as a team. This trend, of reporting the
alien presence as evil, is based in large part by the perception of
MJ12 that the aliens they were first dealing with were of this
mindset. This perception was correct, as they were first contacted
by the ilk of the Omnipotent Krlll. The extent of this group, during
the time they had influence over MJ12, ran into many atrocities that
the general public is scarcely aware of. However, Nancy, in her
engagement with MJ12, encountered these atrocities, and fought to
alert MJ12 that they could Just Say No, as we have stated.
What were these atrocities? We will list a few. It has been reported
that street people were picked up and delivered for experiments to
evil aliens in underground complexes. This is true, and the
experiments horrified those in the military assigned to deliver
these hapless souls. These experiments, akin to those used by the
NAZI during WWII, were to instill a feeling of hopelessness in the
bums picked up on the street, so to drive their souls into the
Service-to-Self orientation. Enslavement, the sense that one cannot
resist, the sense that one should align with the strong and turn on
the weak, are techniques used to drive souls toward the STS
orientation. These experiments included maiming humans so their legs
pointed backwards, or they could not stand up straight, but must
assume humiliating stances. There was no end to the creativity of
these Service-to-Self soldiers, who were specialists in these
settings during Transformation times.
In addition, the CIA, created in the main from the folding NAZI
SS, were influenced to abduct and kill babies, in the theory that
aliens might be inhabiting baby bodies as an infiltration means.
These innocent babies, abducted in the 1940's, were killed in
horrendously painful ways, the theory being that the aliens
inhabiting their bodies would leap out and reveal themselves. As
with Satanism, the only accomplishment was that the CIA and military
assigned to assist them turned increasingly to the Service-to-Self
orientation. Thus, even in 1994, when Nancy entered her engagement
with MJ12, some of these actions were still in process. Thus,
stories about street people reporting being taken underground, or
about evil aliens lurking underground, have their basis. Nancy
volunteered to meet, for instance, a Dino, which did his best to
intimidate her. Suffice it to say that she gave him the finger, in
challenge, with no repercussions. She likewise repeated this, going
into the chambers where street people were maimed, inciting a
rebellion among them when she demonstrated Just Say No. These
chambers are now closed, as MJ12 realized they likewise could say
no. There was a small segment of MJ12 which insisted the
Service-to-Self aliens they had long had a relationship with should
not be just rejected, out of fear. They argued that retaliation
might result. Where they refused to provide human experiment
subjects, they allowed these aliens to continue to live in
underground chambers. Thus, until MJ12 disbanded upon the Bush
election coup, there was contact.
The rumors about MJ12 are that it was setup quickly at the time of Roswell
to deal with the alien presence, how to tell or not tell the world, as the
case may be, how to discern the alien agenda, and how to respond to it.
But the role MJ12 was to play expanded beyond that.
- ZetaTalk: MJ12 Agenda,
written Oct 15, 2000
- The general public, to the extent they are
aware of the existence of MJ12 and it's purported purpose of
controlling interaction with extraterrestrials, are unclear on
additional goals. They hear stories about MJ12's regular meetings
with aliens, desire on the part of the US Military to secure alien
technology, membership in MJ12 by select and invited individuals,
and suppression of news on all this by harsh means. Are these the
goals of MJ12 - containment, self promotion, and suppression?
Hardly. Where the scope of activities in the early days of MJ12 were
certainly dominated by and intense desire to determine what the
alien agenda was, and to come out on top in any arrangements, MJ12
soon found itself holding a tightly capped bottle that was about to
explode. Not only were aliens contacting the citizenry of the world
on a regular and increasing basis, the evidence presented by
ourselves, the Service-to-Others Zetas, on the approach of Planet X
for it's periodic passage was bearing true, and this translated to
an almost mind boggling responsibility toward the general populace.
Where the self-serving goals of Alternatives 1, 2, and 3 are well
known among students of UFOlogy, the goals of those member of MJ12
who were altruistic are not well known. Where MJ12 was heavily
influenced in it's early days by the CIA, which indeed ran drugs and
laundered money on the excuse that MJ12 as a secret organization
needed outside funding, the arm of MJ12 that has strengthened and
become dominant of late had a different focus.
Clearly, the early goals of MJ12 to suppress knowledge of the alien
presence could not be perpetuated, was an untenable situation, and
could only end in humiliation for MJ12. This has thus migrated to be
a series of controlled leaks, semi-truths and even frank admissions,
with contactees and those reporting sightings no longer punished.
Likewise, where some members from the early days of MJ12, seeking to
get rich and hold the reigns of power where they could never be
discovered or taken to account, resulted in mischief and even crime,
this was steadfastly rooted out and the perpetrators called to
account. MJ12 functioned as the secret organization it was intended
to be, sparsely funded and the poverty child of the government,
truly. In that MJ12 utilizes the many arms of the government to
implement their programs, and in that government employees in the
main staff MJ12, there is no need for independent funding. Seeing
that the pole shift was rapidly approaching, and was framing out to
be the horror we had described during our initial encounters shortly
after Roswell, MJ12 first set out to inform the public via the media
with movies having a cataclysmic overtone. Tidal waves, asteroids
and missiles of death raining down upon cities from space, dust in
the air putting the Earth in a death-grip of doom - all these were
designed to set the populace to thinking about such matters, but
always with the theme that their government would and could save
If MJ12 was a secret arm of the government, without funding of its own,
how did it function?
In the main, it functioned by using existing branches - the FBI, the CIA,
During my engagement with MJ12, I often found myself on military bases
that had been closed, were supposedly idle, but were very much in use by
Especially where out of view of the public eye, so that lights and
activity would not be noticed.
The tables and chairs were on the cheap, folding tables and chairs, and
some of the uniforms taken out of storage, the moth-balls dusted off so to
Things that would not be missed, were utilized.
- ZetaTalk: MJ12 Groups,
written on Apr 15, 1996
- MJ12 does not operate in a vacuum, as a
standalone, off-the-books, agency. It has tentacles whereby it
reaches out to gather information and accomplish its goals. MJ12 is
the administrative hub, where policy decisions are reached and the
center where key contacts with the outside world are maintained.
However, it would be short-sighted indeed, in that those in its
hierarchy have parallel positions within the federal bureaucracy, to
not use those very bureaucracies. In fact, given the structure of
MJ12, it is only natural. Without being specific, we will enumerate
some of those tentacles. The military branches all have intelligence
units, which are skilled in various degrees at electronic snooping,
interrogation techniques, and undercover activities. Individuals
from these units are assigned to a stint of duty to MJ12, just as
they are assigned to secret missions, and are no more prone to talk
about these assignments than those involving any other - you hear
about none of it. Both the FBI and CIA have vast pools of
information on corporations, individuals, and groups running under
the many different charters that can exist in human society. These
intelligence agencies have formal arrangements with MJ12, who has
but to ask for this information for it to be delivered, pronto.
Military installations include many complexes held in abeyance, just
in case. Land and buildings are hard enough to come by in times of
plenty, and during cut backs are not released, in the main. Idle
facilities in remote areas are ideal for temporary use by active
MJ12 members, who are almost invariably from the military. Should
the reader find this astonishing - that federal employees are
regularly dealing with MJ12 yet the public hears at most rumors of
this activity - they should bear in mind the following. Intelligence
groups, and the military in general, operate on a need to know
basis. This rule is in place to prevent covert operations from being
carelessly exposed, the enemy from learning of plans, and to a small
degree to prevent the public from learning what the government is
really up to. Also, when services are performed for MJ12, these
services are not distinguishable from normal, everyday services. The
requests don't have MJ12 stamped in big bright letters on the front,
they come wrapped in commonplace covers, and thus raise little
Will the public get the truth about MJ12, the Secret Government?
Not on your life, and certainly not in your lifetime!
- ZetaTalk: MJ12 Documents,
written on Aug 15, 1996
- A still hotly debated topic is the validity
of what are purported to be documents from MJ12, dating back to
President Truman's era. These carefully manufactured documents are
authentic enough in appearance to convince many that they are real,
yet flaws exist that have others convinced they are a fraud. Both
situations are true, as the documents are what could be termed a
half truth. The release of these documents, the content of which is
false, was intended to be a leak by the government that would hasten
the Awakening of the populace to the alien presence. Where the
documents line up with the facts is in the existence of MJ12,
periodic meetings in secret, and in those days the involvement of
the President of the United States. Where the documents part from
the truth is where they give the impression that MJ12 was a fleeting
response, that the matters they addressed were limited in scope, or
that they were almost casual about dealing with the alien presence
and what this would mean for humanity.
What kind of activities did MJ12 get into?
Are the rumors true, for instance, about the Philadelphia Experiment,
where man and metal merged?
Yes and no!
- ZetaTalk: Philadelphia Experiment, written by Jul 15, 1995
- The Philadelphia experiment was fictional,
a disinformation scheme to divert humans from exploring the real
experiment that occurred. The Philadelphia experiment much in the
media is a fraud perpetrated to distract people from pursuing the
real Philadelphia experiment, which didn't take place anywhere near
Philadelphia. Servicemen were indeed injured, and because the risk
of questions existed, the cover story was put up to effectively
point any questioners to a dead end. The real experiment with moving
between densities, which can and does occur naturally on your
planet, was done in a warehouse in Kansas - rural, remote, virtually
uninhabited. Moving into the next density requires more than just
bombardment of matter to the point of compression tension. It
requires a total shift, and if one expects to return, a total shift
back. The humans conducting this experiment were of such an
orientation that they did not care about the servicemen being used,
or what might become of them. Rather than hesitate, knowing they did
not have all the parameters in place, they proceeded.
The servicemen, who were encased in a metal box, were left partially
in the next density, along with portions of their container. They
were, of course, all dead, but the witnesses of this experiment, and
the associates whom the servicemen had just recently been mingling
with, were many. The government concocted a repeat experiment, which
proceeded part way, enough so that the story as to the results was
similar. Additional servicemen were subjected, knowing the probably
results, but most of these survived to chat among themselves and
their families. All secrets escape, leaks occur, and in this way the
investigators would be altogether in the wrong vicinity, and talking
to altogether the wrong participants!
Then there are the time travel rumors? True?
- ZetaTalk: Montauk Project, written May 15, 1996
- Having observed that the Service-to-Self
aliens they were in contact with could do marvelous things, the
secret government had no doubt that they could also travel through
time. That this capacity is strictly regulated by the Council of
Worlds and is almost without exception never granted to the Service-
to-Self crowd when they request authorization was, of course, not
mentioned. In concert with density shifting experiments in the
Philadelphia Experiments, time travel was attempted. This was an
utter failure, with the human scientists tinkering with their
machines under instructions received from the Service-to-Self
aliens, and suffering under the wrath of generals who were sure that
the project was only failing because of their incompetence. After a
time, the project was put on hold, due more to emotional and mental
exhaustion than any change in plans. Eventually, the generals
involved realized that those in the Service-to-Self lie freely and
without conscience, and abandoned the project altogether.
Nonetheless, rumors abound, and due to the sensational nature of the
project and the power that would accrue to those who might succeed,
the rumors and interest in the Montauk experiment are unlikely to
And an exchange of alien technology for human experimentation, ie Project
- ZetaTalk: Project Prometheus, written Oct 15, 1996
- Project Prometheus is rumored to be an
exchange of alien technology for certain favors granted by the
government, specifically being allowed to abduct the citizenry. We
have addressed these issues, and explained that alien technology was
not given to humans, though aliens in the Service-to-Self
orientation most certainly said this was to be the case. They lie.
In addition, an abduction right is not something that aliens need
the government to grant, as the government has no control over alien
activities. What is called abduction is under the control of the
human giving The Call, and thus is under the control of the
individual human desiring contact.
Or the famed Alternative 1, 2, and 3, by which the Earth will remain
habitable and an elite groups of humans can escape the coming pole shift.
- ZetaTalk: Alternative 3,
written Jul 15, 1995
- Alternatives 1, 2, and 3 have been much
bandied about, as solutions given to humans on how to approach the
coming Earth changes. Some stories have it that humans derived the
three scenarios themselves, but the stories coming from sources
closer to the heart of the matter point to alien suggestions on
these alternatives. This is correct. Why would humans decide to
locate on other planets to escape pollution or nuclear fallout, when
the have neither the means to travel to other planets, the
capability of sustaining themselves there, or a pollution situation
dire enough to be frantic about escaping from? It is, therefore,
obvious that these suggestions were given to humans by aliens,
aliens in the Service-to-Self orientation we might add. The alien
agenda was falsely presented to the humans involved as being a
concern for their survival. As the high level government contacts
were strongly in the Service-to-Self orientation, they saw all this
as their escape, their alternatives, and were not at any time
thinking about humanity in general. What the aliens truly sought was
to subvert these humans to sink more and more deeply into the
Service-to-Self orientation. To some degree, and with some humans,
Alternative 3 is suspected as having been implemented, as
Alternatives 1 and 2 have been. The United States government went
underground, at Mount Weather and numerous other spots, as has been
documented to the satisfaction of even the skeptical reader. This
fact is not even being denied by the government any more. Portions
of the government, and we are here speaking of rogue CIA officers,
set out to trim and prune the Earth's humanity to their liking. Thus
we have the AIDs and Ebola viruses, as well as various wars and
conflicts which the CIA always seems to be at the center of.
Likewise, Alternative 3 was implemented, but as the populace can't
get up to the surface of other planets, this cannot be demonstrated
to the satisfaction of skeptics. As with the other Alternatives, the
particulars of this alternative were something the Service-to-Self
aliens contacting the government were familiar with.
They sent representatives of the US and other governments up to
these places, to demonstrate that such a living arrangement was
hospitable. Matters soon went amuck, however. Soon the human guests
became stressed in the heavy Service-to-Self environment. Stress
diseases cropped up among the humans, ulcers and heart palpitations
and arthritic pains. They became distracted in their work, stricken
with headaches and vague feelings of weakness. Their human
commanders, paranoid about living away from the Earth to begin with,
attributed all this to planetary factors such as gravity, air
pressure, air composition, or perhaps strange rays that were not
measurable on their instruments. The plan was abandoned, and the
humans who participated were exterminated. Their bodies were not
returned to Earth, nor should one look for this to happen. The Moon
was one of the planets occupied by humans as a result of the
implementation of Alternative 3. Can humans see these installations?
They cannot, as they are on what is termed the dark side of the
Moon. Ourselves, the Zetas, were not involved in the Alternative 3
installations, as we are the Service-to-Others Zetas. The two groups
do not mix.
The rumors are that the President of the US was never a member of MJ12,
but the Vice President could be.
Yes, unless an existing member became the President.
During my engagement with MJ12, Gore was regularly at meetings, but
George W Bush, however, was inducted into MJ12 by his father, so in this
case both he and Cheney had membership status.
Just how did one become a member?
- ZetaTalk: MJ12 Service,
written Jul 15, 1996
- MJ12 is less than 2,000 strong. The
membership can be put to death if they reveal the existence of MJ12
or any information that they have learned through membership in
MJ12. In addition, they are barred from making personal profit from
the information they learned. This is no idle death threat. This
occurs at least yearly. Dozens of individuals have been swiftly put
to death from breaching this. Most government employees or
contractors who serve MJ12 have no idea who the recipient of their
service is. MJ12 operates out of various intelligence agencies,
which all go on a need to know basis. If one delivers a package from
point A to Point B, or researches the background of a civilian, does
one need to know why this service is required? As a general rule,
MJ12 does not even allow active members of MJ12, those who know they
are working for this arm of the government, to come in contact with
Where we provided a travel service as part of our agreement with
MJ12, the humans being transported never encountered the pilots.
They walk up a ramp, enter an empty room, the door closes and
shortly reopens at the destination. No contact. We are in telepathic
contact with our human counterparts and learn of the itinerary in
this way. Where only a small, select group within MJ12 had knowledge
of travel by space ship, an even smaller group actually had contact
with aliens. These individuals are subject to a battery of
psychological tests and field trials, and are characteristically
highly stable individuals. They are essentially unflappable. As with
MJ12 in general, one does not chose these careers, they are chosen.
How many of the less than 2,000 MJ12 members know of the coming pole
shift? Few actually know that [Planet X] is inbound. People know
small portions of the truth, and they are told to make plans, to
prepare, for the likelihood of this or that, without being told with
The rumor is that MJ12 often recruited orphans into its ranks, those who
would not be noticed if they went missing.
Those with few relatives to share stories with.
Those with few loyalities.
I found this to be true. The man assigned to me as my handler, during my
engagement with MJ12, had been orphaned at an early age, and was
My engagement with MJ12 has ended because MJ12 as an organization
interacting with aliens no longer exists.
Some might claim it still exists, but this is a false front.
The governing boards phased MJ12 out just ahead of Bush and Cheney taking
office in January 2001.
Why? Because they knew the power of MJ12 would be misused by this crew.
In essense, by disbanding, they freed any alien group such as the Zetas
who had agreements with MJ12 from their obligations.
The travel service the Zetas were offering to MJ12 stopped. No more space
ship trips, cloaked, so that meetings could take place anywhere, in an
instant, among parties at a distance from each other.
No more teleporting in and out of places, secretly.
- ZetaTalk: Suicide,
written Jan 15, 2001
- After the Supreme Court maneuver, when Bush
was destined to become President, we warned that there would be a
Social Security scam, swinging money to Wall Street to bolster Wall
Street so it would not crash as soon as it surely will, and to watch
for the new administration to be heavily loyal to industrial
interests and special interests of the wealthy, and to expect that
enclaves of the wealthy would be protected by the military and the
average man would be cut loose to his own resources. We also
mentioned that our association with MJ12 was not necessarily going
to continue, because it was an agreement made with the US
Government, and arm of which became the Secret Government. A US
Government cannot just call itself a US Government, it must in fact
act like a US Government for our agreement to continue. Our
agreement is null and void if the US Government serves only the
special few and not the people it is sworn to serve, if it is no
longer a democracy because martial law has been imposed, and for
many other similar reasons.
Because, over the years, Presidents have tried to prevent the
incoming President from knowing about and using MJ12, it has
increasingly been cut away from the White House and became an
independent arm. MJ12 has been populated by various civil servants,
in the intel organizations to some extent, and some individuals who
have never had any government service but who were pulled into MJ12
service due to their expertise or their position to help on a
particular issue. All of the approximately 2,000 people who entered
MJ12 and became members agreed, and signed an agreement, to allow
MJ12 to assassinate them should they begin leaking information or
financially gaining from information they learned from their MJ12
association. So it wasn't a large group, and the governing board of
40 was certainly not a large group, but the governing board in
particular was very independent. The President could not pull their
strings. The Vice President was a member, but not a member of the
governing board. Because of the distress the governing boards of
MJ12 felt over what they were certain were plans to misuse the Zeta
travel service, they disbanded themselves. This happened in
December, after the election, and they allowed a two week closedown.